Our Jordan Bateman and The Orca’s Maclean Kay close out 2020 with a discussion on Rob Shaw joining the Orca’s Resident Pod; Maclean’s year-end sitdowns with John Horgan, Shirley Bond and Sonia Furstenau; nice stories about those three, Mary Polak, Dan Ashton, and others; and the rocky finish to 2020 for the NDP Government. Jordan also gives Maclean a lesson in why a secret ballot is important in unionization votes.